Gettysburg Battlefield Park
gpthelastrebel, Fri Aug 08 2008, 06:05PM
Here is another issue we should address. Those of you who were SHAPE members a couple of years ago knew this was coming. This is the result of over 1million dollar "improvements' to the parks. More "improvements' like this are planned for the other NPS parks. This is just plain and simple rewriting of history and this is an issue that everyone North or South needs to get involved in.
Randy, Gator and Carolyn, can ya'll take this project on? Mark and I are up to our eyeballs with the apology issue. We will however offer assistance if you request. I am thinking letters to congressmen, senators and the NPS.
Thanks,
George
PS.
I am assuming I can post this letter since it was posted in a public forum. If requested I will remove the posting.
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Gettysburg Foundation
Robert Wilburn, President
Post Office Box 3997
Gettysburg, PA 17325
August 1, 2008
Dear Mr. Wilburn,
My wife and I spent our spring vacation absorbing as much history as possible. Our vacation started on May 7th and we stayed in Centerville, Virginia for four days. While there we visited the Manassas Battlefield and many of the battlefield sites in Prince William County. The county has done a great job of identifying and marking the sites. We also visited the WW II and FDR Monuments and the Natural History Museum in Washington D.C.
We have been anxiously awaiting the opening of the new museum at Gettysburg. We were there in May and September of last year and saw the progress of the building. We had the opportunity to visit on May 13, 2008. My wife and I and two friends arrived shortly after 10:00 AM after driving up from Winchester, Virginia, where we were staying. Upon entering the building we were approached by a staff person telling us about the great movie in the visitors center. She said it was a new twenty-minute movie and she really encouraged us to see it. The admission fee of eight dollars was pretty steep…for that price I could see the new Indiana Jones movie twice, at that time of day. We all decided that since we were there and it may be a while before we would return to Gettysburg, we would pay the eight dollars and see the movie. The movies at Manassas and the one we saw at Antietam were only three dollars and they were well made and enjoyable. With this in mind we figured this would be even better.
Much to our surprise and horror, the first five or so minutes of the movie was all about how slavery started the war! We thought we were there to see a worthwhile film about the battle of Gettysburg. Instead, we were subjected to the idea that all Southern slave owners mistreated their slaves, which is the reason the war started. Why was this in a movie about Gettysburg? Just about the time I was ready to leave and request my money back, the movie changed into the history of the battle. As the film was nearing the end, it reverted back to the slavery issue, Civil Rights Movement and even included a picture of Martin Luther King!!! How did Martin Luther King, in any remote way, have anything to do with the Battle of Gettysburg or the War Between the States??? Why didn’t the movie producers just go ahead and include Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson?
The new Gettysburg movie is just as tragic as the war itself! The Gettysburg Visitor Center had a great opportunity to teach thousands of children and adults about the actual issues that spurred the war. Instead of the real reasons for the war they will see this trash and believe it, because they saw it at Gettysburg!
I think it is time to replace those that had anything to do with this movie and bring back the people that can tell the whole story without fabricating what they think the people of America should see.
I was also very disappointed with the darkened maze concept that was used to design the museum, not knowing where you were and when you would find the end. I sure hope this is not the new approach that has been adopted to display the artifacts and war relics.
The National Park Service at Gettysburg has lost the integrity and trusts given them by the people of this country and should be held accountable for this slander of the truth.
You have seen fit to brainwash the young of country and everyone that sees this film. I talk to many history groups during the year and I have already spread the word about the changes that have been made at the Gettysburg Visitors Center and will continue to do so! I will also use e-mail to see to it that the my fellow Compatriots, Skirmishers, Daughters, re-enactors, friends, relatives and historians are made aware of the path the National Park Service has seen fit to take.
In response to your request for a donation and to preserve my name and address on the Founder Honor Roll, I will NOT donate or be involved in any way with this pack of lies and deceit that your organization has so well orchestrated.
Disappointed in the South!
John A. Sharrett, III
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gator, Sat Aug 09 2008, 04:36AM
i will give any help i can. i'll try to find the name of the film producer and company that released it. the showing of this film is nothing less than disturbing. to think that people will now spread the untruth to others through simple conversations is damageing to the truth that should be known by all. but we know that the truth is not welcomed by those who wish to keep a one sided mind.
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gpthelastrebel, Sat Aug 09 2008, 09:13AM
I am guessing the film company only did what they were paid to do. This came through the National Park service. I am thinking we need to contact some congressmen or senators for this. SHAPE has already had discusssions with the NPS protesting this change. I believe we have this posted on the old SHAPE message board.
GP
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8milereb, Sat Aug 09 2008, 03:45PM
They will say they want to reach a diverse crowd, not exclude anyone and you can bet they will say the WBTS was ALL about slavery...bla bl bla. I know we have 3 of you working on a similiar letter and I think its MUCH NEEDED..thanks for all your hard work.
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8milereb, Sat Aug 09 2008, 03:47PM
I also think there are some points in this really amazing letter written by Mr Sharrett that we can borrow to make out letter even stronger than the great version I read this a.m from Carolyn
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, Sun Aug 10 2008, 06:10AM
George, Gator, and Randy:
I have emailed you all the letter that Mark mentioned above. Please let me know what y'all think about its content. I also agree with Mark that Mr. Sharrett's letter was excellent in itself.
Thanks much,
Carolyn
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8milereb, Sun Aug 10 2008, 05:04PM
Just needs tweaking a little, remove the vaction part and make it more from SHAPE as a group and not personal
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gpthelastrebel, Thu Aug 14 2008, 12:53PM
How is this project coming along????
GP
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8milereb, Fri Aug 15 2008, 08:09PM
Please provide us with an update..do you need anything?
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, Fri Aug 15 2008, 11:43PM
I don't know where we stand. I am still handicapped as far as using the internet. I have sent a couple of emails; but I am very cautious about logging as a member here until I get this phone problem sorted through.
I would like to send a donation by check for postage if someone can send me an address.
Thanks much,
Carolyn
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gpthelastrebel, Sat Aug 16 2008, 09:17AM
My mailing address has been sent to you. At the present time this address is being used as the homeoffice of SHAPE.
It is my thoughts that we would email all members of the house, senate and especially the committee for the NPS our letter of protest. Has ayone started doing that at this time?
GP
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8milereb, Sat Aug 16 2008, 03:56PM
George, not sure who you are asking here? Do we have Committees set up for these projects? If not lets do so. Carolyn understand your situation with internet. It its my understanding we are working 2 major projects now. One with NPS (Gettysburg) and the other on the House Apologies. George and Sheree are doing the lions share with the apology but not sure where we are at with the NPS. Who has the lead?
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8milereb, Sat Aug 16 2008, 03:59PM
OK: Randy, Gator and Carolyn..you have the lead with the NPS project, George, Sheree with me in tow have the Apologies. Randy, Gator, with Carolyn off line now, we will need to ask you two to step up and take the slack for now. Please shoot me a note and let me know where you are at, what you have completed, plan to complete, and any help you may need. Thanks, Mark
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gator, Sun Aug 17 2008, 04:57AM
i have mailed 4 letters to congressmen and represenatives in louisiana. i will be contacting some new canidates to see where they stand on supporting the southern heritage. it is election time here in louisiana. maybe some good will come from new officers.
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gpthelastrebel, Mon Aug 18 2008, 04:11PM
gator,
Can you send emails to All congressmen and senators who have email addresses? It is a bit of work but I think in order to bring attention to this situation we must cover the reppresentatives like a wet blanket. I'll also get started on this issue as soon as I get the apology issue behind me.
GP
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8milereb, Wed Sep 10 2008, 06:20PM
Where are we on this project?
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gpthelastrebel, Wed Sep 10 2008, 06:50PM
Not sure at this time.
GP
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, Fri Sep 12 2008, 10:51PM
Mark and George -
On August 17, I had suggested that we send the letter to the following and Gator had responded to me by email that he would send letters to them. Since, I had the problems with AT&T and just got back online today, I don't know anymore than that:
National Park Service
Department of the Interior
1859 C Street, N.W.
Washington, DC 20240
Ms. Mary A. Bomar
Director, National Park Service
Department of The Interior
1859 C Street, N.W.
Washington, DC 20240
Ms. Lindi Harvey
National Park Service, Deputy Director
Department of The Interior
1859 C Street, N.W.
Washington, DC 20240
Mr. Dan Wenk
National Park Service Deputy Director
Department of The Interior
1859 C Street, N.W.
Washington, DC 20240
Gettysburg Foundation
Robert Wilburn, President
Post Office Box 3997
Gettysburg, PA 17325
Carolyn
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, Fri Sep 12 2008, 10:52PM
Mark and George -
On August 17, I had suggested that we send the letter to the following and Gator had responded to me by email that he would send letters to them. Since, I had the problems with AT&T and just got back online today, I don't know anymore than that:
National Park Service
Department of the Interior
1859 C Street, N.W.
Washington, DC 20240
Ms. Mary A. Bomar
Director, National Park Service
Department of The Interior
1859 C Street, N.W.
Washington, DC 20240
Ms. Lindi Harvey
National Park Service, Deputy Director
Department of The Interior
1859 C Street, N.W.
Washington, DC 20240
Mr. Dan Wenk
National Park Service Deputy Director
Department of The Interior
1859 C Street, N.W.
Washington, DC 20240
Gettysburg Foundation
Robert Wilburn, President
Post Office Box 3997
Gettysburg, PA 17325
Carolyn
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gpthelastrebel, Sat Sep 13 2008, 12:53AM
Welcome back Carolyn, we missed you. We will pick this up again soon, got my hands full right now.
GP
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, Sat Sep 13 2008, 01:00AM
Thanks much.
Carolyn
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8milereb, Sat Sep 13 2008, 10:29PM
OK someone chime in when you can and let me know if any letters have been sent to these people Carolyn mentioned above. If not I will take this on and make sure we send SHAPE letters to them all. Good to hear from you Carolyn and welcome back. I got your 2 emails you sent and saved your new email address
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8milereb, Sat Sep 13 2008, 10:31PM
George I will print our some SHAPE letter head and send out letters. I am going to put the address we have for SHAPE's "HQ"s which is your address if thats OK with you.
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gpthelastrebel, Sun Sep 14 2008, 12:54AM
That is fine with me. I say send hard copies to the folks mentioned and then email everyone else in the congress and senate. let them all know this is a total distortion of history.
You should remind them of this---
The Crittenden-Johnson Resolution (also called the Crittenden Resolution) was passed by the United States Congress on July 25, 1861 after the start of the American Civil War, which began on April 12, 1861.
Specifically, the resolution stated that the war was being waged for the reunion of the states, and not to abolish the south's "peculiar institution" of slavery. The resolution required the Union Government to take no actions against institution of slavery. It was named for Senators John J. Crittenden of Kentucky and Andrew Johnson of Tennessee (who was later to become President). The war was fought not for "overthrowing or interfering with the rights or established institutions of those States," but to "defend and maintain the supremacy of the Constitution and to preserve the Union." The war would end when the seceding states returned to the Union, slavery intact.
The crucial states of Maryland, Kentucky, and Missouri remained in the Union. After the bloody and questionable Union victory at the Battle of Antietam, Lincoln promulgated the Emancipation Proclamation, which was passed primarily as a diplomatic initiative to keep the United Kingdom from recognizing the Confederacy, and now it was about slavery.
Source:
http://www.onpedia.com/encyclopedia/crittenden-johnson-resolution
GP
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8milereb, Sun Sep 14 2008, 05:55PM
SHAPE letters will go out to these people today, keeping in mind the Dept of the Interior is now under investigation for many criminal acts these past months,(involving oil and personal misconduct) I doubt this will be at the top of their agenda, but they will get then anyway. I still suggest as with Gator, that each of us take the time to write our Congressmen as they are the ones that appropriate the money for NPS, and they will react to $$$ issues before social or historical issues
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8milereb, Sun Sep 14 2008, 05:59PM
He will get a a letter from SHAPE as well: Norman D. Dicks (WA), Chair Subcommittee on Interior, Environment, and Related Agencies
Michael Stephens, Subcommittee Clerk
Room B-308 Rayburn House Office Building
Washington, DC 20515
Phone: (202) 225-3081
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8milereb, Sun Sep 14 2008, 06:01PM
Letter from Norman Dicks (D) WA
The bill includes $2.6 billion for the National Parks. This includes a $158 million increase in funding for the operational budgets of our parks. Every one of the 391 units of the Park Service will benefit from this increase. The 2009 bill continues the multi-year effort initiated in 2008 to restore the parks for the Centennial of the National Park Service in 2016. The bill does not, however, provide any funding for Centennial matching grants in 2009. Funding for this program is being handled as mandatory spending by the authorizing committees, as proposed by the President.
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8milereb, Sun Sep 14 2008, 06:07PM
Finally, in terms of money, the bill includes $160 million for the National Endowments for the Arts and $160 million for the National Endowment for the Humanities, an increase of $30 million for the two endowments. These highly effective agencies support the preservation and encouragement of America's cultural heritage.......WONDER WHERE THIS $190M goes? in the name of "Cultural Heritage.....American Indians already receive almost $10 Billion a year in a variety of funding areas...so what other "Cultural Heritage" can they mean?????
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8milereb, Sun Sep 14 2008, 06:24PM
Purse strings for NPS: http://appropriations.house.gov/pdf/DicksSubMarkup06-11-08.pdf
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8milereb, Sun Sep 14 2008, 06:29PM
I am also including in our letter Lincolns comments in his First Inaugural Address
March 4, 1861
Washington, D.C.Apprehension seems to exist among the people of the Southern States, that by the accession of a Republican Administration, their property, and their peace, and personal security, are to be endangered. There has never been any reasonable cause for such apprehension. Indeed, the most ample evidence to the contrary has all the while existed, and been open to their inspection. It is found in nearly all the published speeches of him who now addresses you. I do but quote from one of those speeches when I declare that "I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so." Those who nominated and elected me did so with full knowledge that I had made this, and many similar declarations, and had never recanted them. And more than this, they placed in the platform, for my acceptance, and as a law to themselves, and to me, the clear and emphatic resolution which I now read:
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8milereb, Tue Sep 16 2008, 10:32PM
Letters have been sent to Deparment of Interior, Directors, Sub Directors of the NPS, Chair Subcommittee Interior & Enviornment (Congressman Dicks (D) WA) and faxes to all Committee Members, and Subcommitte Clerk, just in case I missed somebody, oh and the President Gettysburg Foundation
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8milereb, Tue Sep 16 2008, 10:43PM
Folks below are the members who funds the NPS, we need to write them emails, but most importantly write the NPS Policy office and their "Advisory Board" Members, they are the culprits of this social agenda at our Nations Battelfield Parks and Museums. I will post them later..gotta run
MAJORITY Subcommittee on Interior, Environment,
Chair: Norman D. Dicks (WA)
James P. Moran (VA)
Maurice D. Hinchey (NY)
John W. Olver (MA)
Alan B. Mollohan (WV)
Tom Udall (NM)
Ben Chandler (KY)
Ed Pastor (AZ)
Dave Obey (WI), Ex Officio
Minority
Ranking Member:
Todd Tiahrt (KS)
John E. Peterson (PA)
Jo Ann Emerson (MO)
Virgil H. Goode, Jr. (VA)
Ken Calvert (CA)
Jerry Lewis (CA), Ex Officio
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8milereb, Tue Sep 16 2008, 10:44PM
http://appropriations.house.gov/Subcommittees/sub_ienv.shtml
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8milereb, Tue Sep 16 2008, 10:56PM
Web page to email NPS..Look at the "Ask a Question" and scroll down and click about Interpretation and Education and a email page will come up.......http://www.nps.gov/contacts.htm
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gpthelastrebel, Wed Apr 22 2009, 08:54PM
Folks,
Don't want to give away any clues as to who is helping us, but I did receive a call today from an important persons office on the issue of Gettysburg Battlefield Park. That request copies of all letters from the NPS that we have received. This may or may not lead to anything, but this little band of warriors is being heard.
GP
gpthelastrebel, Fri Aug 08 2008, 06:05PM
Here is another issue we should address. Those of you who were SHAPE members a couple of years ago knew this was coming. This is the result of over 1million dollar "improvements' to the parks. More "improvements' like this are planned for the other NPS parks. This is just plain and simple rewriting of history and this is an issue that everyone North or South needs to get involved in.
Randy, Gator and Carolyn, can ya'll take this project on? Mark and I are up to our eyeballs with the apology issue. We will however offer assistance if you request. I am thinking letters to congressmen, senators and the NPS.
Thanks,
George
PS.
I am assuming I can post this letter since it was posted in a public forum. If requested I will remove the posting.
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Gettysburg Foundation
Robert Wilburn, President
Post Office Box 3997
Gettysburg, PA 17325
August 1, 2008
Dear Mr. Wilburn,
My wife and I spent our spring vacation absorbing as much history as possible. Our vacation started on May 7th and we stayed in Centerville, Virginia for four days. While there we visited the Manassas Battlefield and many of the battlefield sites in Prince William County. The county has done a great job of identifying and marking the sites. We also visited the WW II and FDR Monuments and the Natural History Museum in Washington D.C.
We have been anxiously awaiting the opening of the new museum at Gettysburg. We were there in May and September of last year and saw the progress of the building. We had the opportunity to visit on May 13, 2008. My wife and I and two friends arrived shortly after 10:00 AM after driving up from Winchester, Virginia, where we were staying. Upon entering the building we were approached by a staff person telling us about the great movie in the visitors center. She said it was a new twenty-minute movie and she really encouraged us to see it. The admission fee of eight dollars was pretty steep…for that price I could see the new Indiana Jones movie twice, at that time of day. We all decided that since we were there and it may be a while before we would return to Gettysburg, we would pay the eight dollars and see the movie. The movies at Manassas and the one we saw at Antietam were only three dollars and they were well made and enjoyable. With this in mind we figured this would be even better.
Much to our surprise and horror, the first five or so minutes of the movie was all about how slavery started the war! We thought we were there to see a worthwhile film about the battle of Gettysburg. Instead, we were subjected to the idea that all Southern slave owners mistreated their slaves, which is the reason the war started. Why was this in a movie about Gettysburg? Just about the time I was ready to leave and request my money back, the movie changed into the history of the battle. As the film was nearing the end, it reverted back to the slavery issue, Civil Rights Movement and even included a picture of Martin Luther King!!! How did Martin Luther King, in any remote way, have anything to do with the Battle of Gettysburg or the War Between the States??? Why didn’t the movie producers just go ahead and include Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson?
The new Gettysburg movie is just as tragic as the war itself! The Gettysburg Visitor Center had a great opportunity to teach thousands of children and adults about the actual issues that spurred the war. Instead of the real reasons for the war they will see this trash and believe it, because they saw it at Gettysburg!
I think it is time to replace those that had anything to do with this movie and bring back the people that can tell the whole story without fabricating what they think the people of America should see.
I was also very disappointed with the darkened maze concept that was used to design the museum, not knowing where you were and when you would find the end. I sure hope this is not the new approach that has been adopted to display the artifacts and war relics.
The National Park Service at Gettysburg has lost the integrity and trusts given them by the people of this country and should be held accountable for this slander of the truth.
You have seen fit to brainwash the young of country and everyone that sees this film. I talk to many history groups during the year and I have already spread the word about the changes that have been made at the Gettysburg Visitors Center and will continue to do so! I will also use e-mail to see to it that the my fellow Compatriots, Skirmishers, Daughters, re-enactors, friends, relatives and historians are made aware of the path the National Park Service has seen fit to take.
In response to your request for a donation and to preserve my name and address on the Founder Honor Roll, I will NOT donate or be involved in any way with this pack of lies and deceit that your organization has so well orchestrated.
Disappointed in the South!
John A. Sharrett, III
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gator, Sat Aug 09 2008, 04:36AM
i will give any help i can. i'll try to find the name of the film producer and company that released it. the showing of this film is nothing less than disturbing. to think that people will now spread the untruth to others through simple conversations is damageing to the truth that should be known by all. but we know that the truth is not welcomed by those who wish to keep a one sided mind.
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gpthelastrebel, Sat Aug 09 2008, 09:13AM
I am guessing the film company only did what they were paid to do. This came through the National Park service. I am thinking we need to contact some congressmen or senators for this. SHAPE has already had discusssions with the NPS protesting this change. I believe we have this posted on the old SHAPE message board.
GP
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8milereb, Sat Aug 09 2008, 03:45PM
They will say they want to reach a diverse crowd, not exclude anyone and you can bet they will say the WBTS was ALL about slavery...bla bl bla. I know we have 3 of you working on a similiar letter and I think its MUCH NEEDED..thanks for all your hard work.
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8milereb, Sat Aug 09 2008, 03:47PM
I also think there are some points in this really amazing letter written by Mr Sharrett that we can borrow to make out letter even stronger than the great version I read this a.m from Carolyn
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, Sun Aug 10 2008, 06:10AM
George, Gator, and Randy:
I have emailed you all the letter that Mark mentioned above. Please let me know what y'all think about its content. I also agree with Mark that Mr. Sharrett's letter was excellent in itself.
Thanks much,
Carolyn
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8milereb, Sun Aug 10 2008, 05:04PM
Just needs tweaking a little, remove the vaction part and make it more from SHAPE as a group and not personal
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gpthelastrebel, Thu Aug 14 2008, 12:53PM
How is this project coming along????
GP
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8milereb, Fri Aug 15 2008, 08:09PM
Please provide us with an update..do you need anything?
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, Fri Aug 15 2008, 11:43PM
I don't know where we stand. I am still handicapped as far as using the internet. I have sent a couple of emails; but I am very cautious about logging as a member here until I get this phone problem sorted through.
I would like to send a donation by check for postage if someone can send me an address.
Thanks much,
Carolyn
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gpthelastrebel, Sat Aug 16 2008, 09:17AM
My mailing address has been sent to you. At the present time this address is being used as the homeoffice of SHAPE.
It is my thoughts that we would email all members of the house, senate and especially the committee for the NPS our letter of protest. Has ayone started doing that at this time?
GP
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8milereb, Sat Aug 16 2008, 03:56PM
George, not sure who you are asking here? Do we have Committees set up for these projects? If not lets do so. Carolyn understand your situation with internet. It its my understanding we are working 2 major projects now. One with NPS (Gettysburg) and the other on the House Apologies. George and Sheree are doing the lions share with the apology but not sure where we are at with the NPS. Who has the lead?
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8milereb, Sat Aug 16 2008, 03:59PM
OK: Randy, Gator and Carolyn..you have the lead with the NPS project, George, Sheree with me in tow have the Apologies. Randy, Gator, with Carolyn off line now, we will need to ask you two to step up and take the slack for now. Please shoot me a note and let me know where you are at, what you have completed, plan to complete, and any help you may need. Thanks, Mark
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gator, Sun Aug 17 2008, 04:57AM
i have mailed 4 letters to congressmen and represenatives in louisiana. i will be contacting some new canidates to see where they stand on supporting the southern heritage. it is election time here in louisiana. maybe some good will come from new officers.
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gpthelastrebel, Mon Aug 18 2008, 04:11PM
gator,
Can you send emails to All congressmen and senators who have email addresses? It is a bit of work but I think in order to bring attention to this situation we must cover the reppresentatives like a wet blanket. I'll also get started on this issue as soon as I get the apology issue behind me.
GP
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8milereb, Wed Sep 10 2008, 06:20PM
Where are we on this project?
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gpthelastrebel, Wed Sep 10 2008, 06:50PM
Not sure at this time.
GP
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, Fri Sep 12 2008, 10:51PM
Mark and George -
On August 17, I had suggested that we send the letter to the following and Gator had responded to me by email that he would send letters to them. Since, I had the problems with AT&T and just got back online today, I don't know anymore than that:
National Park Service
Department of the Interior
1859 C Street, N.W.
Washington, DC 20240
Ms. Mary A. Bomar
Director, National Park Service
Department of The Interior
1859 C Street, N.W.
Washington, DC 20240
Ms. Lindi Harvey
National Park Service, Deputy Director
Department of The Interior
1859 C Street, N.W.
Washington, DC 20240
Mr. Dan Wenk
National Park Service Deputy Director
Department of The Interior
1859 C Street, N.W.
Washington, DC 20240
Gettysburg Foundation
Robert Wilburn, President
Post Office Box 3997
Gettysburg, PA 17325
Carolyn
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, Fri Sep 12 2008, 10:52PM
Mark and George -
On August 17, I had suggested that we send the letter to the following and Gator had responded to me by email that he would send letters to them. Since, I had the problems with AT&T and just got back online today, I don't know anymore than that:
National Park Service
Department of the Interior
1859 C Street, N.W.
Washington, DC 20240
Ms. Mary A. Bomar
Director, National Park Service
Department of The Interior
1859 C Street, N.W.
Washington, DC 20240
Ms. Lindi Harvey
National Park Service, Deputy Director
Department of The Interior
1859 C Street, N.W.
Washington, DC 20240
Mr. Dan Wenk
National Park Service Deputy Director
Department of The Interior
1859 C Street, N.W.
Washington, DC 20240
Gettysburg Foundation
Robert Wilburn, President
Post Office Box 3997
Gettysburg, PA 17325
Carolyn
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gpthelastrebel, Sat Sep 13 2008, 12:53AM
Welcome back Carolyn, we missed you. We will pick this up again soon, got my hands full right now.
GP
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, Sat Sep 13 2008, 01:00AM
Thanks much.
Carolyn
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8milereb, Sat Sep 13 2008, 10:29PM
OK someone chime in when you can and let me know if any letters have been sent to these people Carolyn mentioned above. If not I will take this on and make sure we send SHAPE letters to them all. Good to hear from you Carolyn and welcome back. I got your 2 emails you sent and saved your new email address
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8milereb, Sat Sep 13 2008, 10:31PM
George I will print our some SHAPE letter head and send out letters. I am going to put the address we have for SHAPE's "HQ"s which is your address if thats OK with you.
Re: Gettysburg Battlefield Park
gpthelastrebel, Sun Sep 14 2008, 12:54AM
That is fine with me. I say send hard copies to the folks mentioned and then email everyone else in the congress and senate. let them all know this is a total distortion of history.
You should remind them of this---
The Crittenden-Johnson Resolution (also called the Crittenden Resolution) was passed by the United States Congress on July 25, 1861 after the start of the American Civil War, which began on April 12, 1861.
Specifically, the resolution stated that the war was being waged for the reunion of the states, and not to abolish the south's "peculiar institution" of slavery. The resolution required the Union Government to take no actions against institution of slavery. It was named for Senators John J. Crittenden of Kentucky and Andrew Johnson of Tennessee (who was later to become President). The war was fought not for "overthrowing or interfering with the rights or established institutions of those States," but to "defend and maintain the supremacy of the Constitution and to preserve the Union." The war would end when the seceding states returned to the Union, slavery intact.
The crucial states of Maryland, Kentucky, and Missouri remained in the Union. After the bloody and questionable Union victory at the Battle of Antietam, Lincoln promulgated the Emancipation Proclamation, which was passed primarily as a diplomatic initiative to keep the United Kingdom from recognizing the Confederacy, and now it was about slavery.
Source:
http://www.onpedia.com/encyclopedia/crittenden-johnson-resolution
GP
Re: Gettysburg Battlefield Park
8milereb, Sun Sep 14 2008, 05:55PM
SHAPE letters will go out to these people today, keeping in mind the Dept of the Interior is now under investigation for many criminal acts these past months,(involving oil and personal misconduct) I doubt this will be at the top of their agenda, but they will get then anyway. I still suggest as with Gator, that each of us take the time to write our Congressmen as they are the ones that appropriate the money for NPS, and they will react to $$$ issues before social or historical issues
Re: Gettysburg Battlefield Park
8milereb, Sun Sep 14 2008, 05:59PM
He will get a a letter from SHAPE as well: Norman D. Dicks (WA), Chair Subcommittee on Interior, Environment, and Related Agencies
Michael Stephens, Subcommittee Clerk
Room B-308 Rayburn House Office Building
Washington, DC 20515
Phone: (202) 225-3081
Re: Gettysburg Battlefield Park
8milereb, Sun Sep 14 2008, 06:01PM
Letter from Norman Dicks (D) WA
The bill includes $2.6 billion for the National Parks. This includes a $158 million increase in funding for the operational budgets of our parks. Every one of the 391 units of the Park Service will benefit from this increase. The 2009 bill continues the multi-year effort initiated in 2008 to restore the parks for the Centennial of the National Park Service in 2016. The bill does not, however, provide any funding for Centennial matching grants in 2009. Funding for this program is being handled as mandatory spending by the authorizing committees, as proposed by the President.
Re: Gettysburg Battlefield Park
8milereb, Sun Sep 14 2008, 06:07PM
Finally, in terms of money, the bill includes $160 million for the National Endowments for the Arts and $160 million for the National Endowment for the Humanities, an increase of $30 million for the two endowments. These highly effective agencies support the preservation and encouragement of America's cultural heritage.......WONDER WHERE THIS $190M goes? in the name of "Cultural Heritage.....American Indians already receive almost $10 Billion a year in a variety of funding areas...so what other "Cultural Heritage" can they mean?????
Re: Gettysburg Battlefield Park
8milereb, Sun Sep 14 2008, 06:24PM
Purse strings for NPS: http://appropriations.house.gov/pdf/DicksSubMarkup06-11-08.pdf
Re: Gettysburg Battlefield Park
8milereb, Sun Sep 14 2008, 06:29PM
I am also including in our letter Lincolns comments in his First Inaugural Address
March 4, 1861
Washington, D.C.Apprehension seems to exist among the people of the Southern States, that by the accession of a Republican Administration, their property, and their peace, and personal security, are to be endangered. There has never been any reasonable cause for such apprehension. Indeed, the most ample evidence to the contrary has all the while existed, and been open to their inspection. It is found in nearly all the published speeches of him who now addresses you. I do but quote from one of those speeches when I declare that "I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so." Those who nominated and elected me did so with full knowledge that I had made this, and many similar declarations, and had never recanted them. And more than this, they placed in the platform, for my acceptance, and as a law to themselves, and to me, the clear and emphatic resolution which I now read:
Re: Gettysburg Battlefield Park
8milereb, Tue Sep 16 2008, 10:32PM
Letters have been sent to Deparment of Interior, Directors, Sub Directors of the NPS, Chair Subcommittee Interior & Enviornment (Congressman Dicks (D) WA) and faxes to all Committee Members, and Subcommitte Clerk, just in case I missed somebody, oh and the President Gettysburg Foundation
Re: Gettysburg Battlefield Park
8milereb, Tue Sep 16 2008, 10:43PM
Folks below are the members who funds the NPS, we need to write them emails, but most importantly write the NPS Policy office and their "Advisory Board" Members, they are the culprits of this social agenda at our Nations Battelfield Parks and Museums. I will post them later..gotta run
MAJORITY Subcommittee on Interior, Environment,
Chair: Norman D. Dicks (WA)
James P. Moran (VA)
Maurice D. Hinchey (NY)
John W. Olver (MA)
Alan B. Mollohan (WV)
Tom Udall (NM)
Ben Chandler (KY)
Ed Pastor (AZ)
Dave Obey (WI), Ex Officio
Minority
Ranking Member:
Todd Tiahrt (KS)
John E. Peterson (PA)
Jo Ann Emerson (MO)
Virgil H. Goode, Jr. (VA)
Ken Calvert (CA)
Jerry Lewis (CA), Ex Officio
Re: Gettysburg Battlefield Park
8milereb, Tue Sep 16 2008, 10:44PM
http://appropriations.house.gov/Subcommittees/sub_ienv.shtml
Re: Gettysburg Battlefield Park
8milereb, Tue Sep 16 2008, 10:56PM
Web page to email NPS..Look at the "Ask a Question" and scroll down and click about Interpretation and Education and a email page will come up.......http://www.nps.gov/contacts.htm
Re: Gettysburg Battlefield Park
gpthelastrebel, Wed Apr 22 2009, 08:54PM
Folks,
Don't want to give away any clues as to who is helping us, but I did receive a call today from an important persons office on the issue of Gettysburg Battlefield Park. That request copies of all letters from the NPS that we have received. This may or may not lead to anything, but this little band of warriors is being heard.
GP